Author Topic: CELEO SHOULD HAVE STUCK TO THAT SEBENE FORMULA  (Read 8891 times)

archos on: April 24, 2014, 21:34

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the lineup of instrumentists with kapaya brothers,rodriguez,lofombo,mardoché synthé,zico mbonda and seguin maniata did a very good job
 this is the style celeo should have continued with,not the slow bonioma type generiques of his recent album
 as a consequence, he is  neither  considered as top solo artist  in terms of animation let alone singing whereas  he has a lot of talent
 he should stop that" i am a boss and a singer" attitude and give his all in animation,and even if he is short on inspiration there are plenty of guys who sell animation to atalakus
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JV “Lone Ranger” #1 on: April 24, 2014, 22:02

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He will never make anything as great as this....this generique was fire because of Kapaya with strong guitar licks like sous sol

archos #2 on: April 24, 2014, 22:06

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He will never make anything as great as this....this generique was fire because of Kapaya with strong guitar licks like sous sol

yeah the presence of flamme was instrumental to the quality but overall i think  he can find good soloists and other instrumentists who can play that direct style of sebene instead of what he did on yes we can,with shaker sounding louder than almost every instrument

JV “Lone Ranger” #3 on: April 24, 2014, 22:21

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True.....Nzoto na nzoto was just perfect all the way to the quality of the video

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #4 on: April 24, 2014, 22:31

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The guy is surprisingly talented, the work he did on this album is good but would have been perfect had he reduced on his own solo vocals, he should let proper singers do it.
I don't think Flamme should get all the credit for the perfection of these two generiques as Flamme himself failed lamentably on his own solo albums and it actually brings something to my mind, of all top and popular soloists in modern Congolese music, I think only Roga Roga, Alain Makaba and Pitshou Santiago have actually made decent sebene albums after going solo, the ones who have released shit sebenes are actually from Maison Mére first it was Japonais with his crap world music followed by Flamme Kapaya also with a too much cut and paste work on his Ebebaka Mabe crap generiques then now kimbangu doing his world music and crap reggae just like Christian Mwepu is doing, I think these guys smoke too much weed at Maison Mére and think they are rastas!! ;D ;D
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JV “Lone Ranger” #5 on: April 24, 2014, 22:57

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The guy is surprisingly talented, the work he did on this album is good but would have been perfect had he reduced on his own solo vocals, he should let proper singers do it.
I don't think Flamme should get all the credit of the perfection of these two generiques as Flamme himself failed lamentably on his own solo albums and it actually brings something to my mind, of all top and popular soloists in modern Congolese music, I think only Roga Roga, Alain Makaba and Pitshou Santiago have actually made decent sebene albums after going solo, the ones who have released shit sebenes are actually from Maison Mére first it was Japonais with his crap world music followed by Flamme Kapaya also with a too much cut and paste work on his Ebebaka Mabe crap generiques then now kimbangu doing his world music and crap reggae just like Christian Mwepu is doing, I think these guys smoke too much weed at Maison Mére and think they are rastas!! ;D ;D

 ;D ;D They seem to get lost and lose their own identity by trying to hard...Kapaya disappointed me big time with that crap Ebebaka Mabe and to think he had Bill and Celeo to animate

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #6 on: April 24, 2014, 23:15

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;D ;D They seem to get lost and lose their own identity by trying to hard...Kapaya disappointed me big time with that crap Ebebaka Mabe and to think he had Bill and Celeo to animate
Yeah, he had the opportunity to make it big by using Bill and Celeo in his solo album but alas the work was catastrophic, one song in particular was badly joined, the sound quality was different, it's the song Surprise Miokono, this was a song which should have been Flamme's on Temps Present, it has Werra, and the Maison Mere atalukus at the time like Brigade and Prince, halfway through the song, he cut in work by Bill and Celeo and the sound was different. There is also another generique on the same album which is an instrumental, my son was even asking me why it sounds different, there is no animation, first he starts the generique as normal with guitars etc then stops and starts playing the harmonica, then he starts the guitars, stops and plays the harmonica.......... ahhhhh,disastrous!!! ;D ;D ;D
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archos #7 on: April 26, 2014, 08:28

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my bad i forgot  zoulou mbonda
 yeah you are right about kapaya, i went to two or three of his concerts here in france i was like "who is this guy"  he played completely differently to what we know and it was quite boring

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #8 on: April 26, 2014, 08:53

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my bad i forgot  zoulou mbonda

 yeah you are right about kapaya, i went to two or three of his concerts here in france i was like "who is this guy"  he played completely differently to what we know and it was quite boring
Ah,Zoulou Mbonda was also on the album, it's really strange that Celeo picked some BCBG musicians to help him out,strange things happen outside the bands enmity.

Yeah, Flamme does weird music, I think he studied Jazz and Rock n Roll too much!!!  :D
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archos #9 on: April 26, 2014, 14:54

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my bad i forgot  zoulou mbonda

 yeah you are right about kapaya, i went to two or three of his concerts here in france i was like "who is this guy"  he played completely differently to what we know and it was quite boring
Ah,Zoulou Mbonda was also on the album, it's really strange that Celeo picked some BCBG musicians to help him out,strange things happen outside the bands enmity.

if you notice well,bill ferre and celeo went to see jb in the beginning of their solo careers(jb even forced celeo to say werra's name properly in his animation like he used to do in maison mere lol)
i think celeo asked to jb if he could borrow some musicians and he got them
kie kie kie yeah kapaya loves jazz a lot here in france  he has been interviewed in some important french channels and presented basically like a jazz artist with african origin,rather than the contrary it was in maison mere