he said he rates bill,celeo,brigade,gentamicine and bercy as top level atalakus and when asked about lobeso,he said lobeso doing animation in his mother tongue was nice at the beginning but he should not do a whole career on it and as a result his career is stalling big time and he got humiliated during bercy's test because of that, and mocked him saying they call him "tigre" but it seems in reality he is a cat because none of the top atalakus he has mentioned earlier would be humiliated like that
and insists he does not hates lobeso but gives his point of view as an artist and a much more experienced atalaku aswell