Like most of us, everyone has found themselves torn apart, they don't know who to support but it's clear that everyone seems to agree that Koffi needs to grow up. Sai Sai especially has given some great counsel, he says he's tired of musicians taking stupidity on tv because the musicians children don't watch the stupid tv channels where musicians appear, the musicians have satellite dishes and most have sent their children abroad so the musicians should not be given chance to confuse the public especially children from poor families who watch national tv so the musicians should not be entertained on tv. He says musicians have caused so many problems even in Europe, some of them have been invited by congolese citizens in diaspora but what do the musicians do, they start eyeing their hosts' wives and all ,he also despises those musicians who go to Europe and get money from people for mabanga but in studio they don't mention the people's names etc.

He's also said If JB Mpiana is really owed that money then the prudent thing for him is to reclaim that money and give it to his band members or one band member to profit instead of Sankara who is not a BCBG member,he says it's because of JB's ways that Chai Ngenge left. Sai Sai says Chai had a problem but had no money but JB Mpiana bought several expensive bottles of champagne on another band member's birthday party in a club(must be Seguin's if i remember what archos said.) Sai Sai says should Koffi decide to give the back what he owes to Sankara then most people in BCBG will be angry and leave the band.

All in all, the polemic needs to stop!

If Jb pays a salary to his band, then they have no business telling him how to spend his money. If he decides that Sankara gets it, so then it must be. There is a tendency among Congolese musicians, to expect profit sharing, houses, cars and tons of cash..........where in the world do you find businesses that pay their employees that way? Sai Sai is absolutely right that Congolese tvs shouldn't entertain the sort of filth Mr Olomide revels in. The polemics are veux Ebola's fault. That thing is a despicable poor excuse of a man. A grown man with an infantile attitude.

what he said is clever but i have two but's
 the first one is that people around and indirectly fans are the first  to encourage tv and internet attacks and counterattacks " as that how congolese music is"( same thing for witchcraft for example)
- the second thing is that sai sai when giving examples should have given example of both camps,at the end of the day some people will not consider him too seriously because he mixed some intelligent things said for musicians overall with a kinda biased  position later
 he is too close to koffi to be  totally fair,and even also copîes koffi's patron stuff  so he is not necessarily a good example either
just as a guy too close to jb would be biased aswell
 for me the best contribution so far from people outside bcbg and quartier latin is by marius muhunga,who has not talked to koffi since maisha days but did not completely trash koffi in his analysis and who is not very very close to jb either

If Jb pays a salary to his band, then they have no business telling him how to spend his money. If he decides that Sankara gets it, so then it must be. There is a tendency among Congolese musicians, to expect profit sharing, houses, cars and tons of cash..........where in the world do you find businesses that pay their employees that way? Sai Sai is absolutely right that Congolese tvs shouldn't entertain the sort of filth Mr Olomide revels in. The polemics are veux Ebola's fault. That thing is a despicable poor excuse of a man. A grown man with an infantile attitude.

Good points. We all choose who to give even parents decide who receives what so that's a point.

Indeed, Koffi is solely to blame and i don't know if he'll stop,maybe another cop needs to slap him like one slapped him when sometime back in traffic after some confusion!

he is too close to koffi to be  totally fair,and even also copîes koffi's patron stuff  so he is not necessarily a good example either
just as a guy too close to jb would be biased aswell
 for me the best contribution so far from people outside bcbg and quartier latin is by marius muhunga,who has not talked to koffi since maisha days but did not completely trash koffi in his analysis and who is not very very close to jb either

That's true, he's too close to Vieux and he's said it before that he's helped Quartier Latin with animation work several times, his point of view about musicians is quite honest and true though so hope they think.

...while its clear Bin Adam is not made for this polemic game, I still maintain that his biggest problem is you his fans; you guys will excuse him out of murder . Did we really need to hear about the late Monica or mock an epidemic that is claiming lives in real time

...while its clear Bin Adam is not made for this polemic game, I still maintain that his biggest problem is you his fans; you guys will excuse him out of murder . Did we really need to hear about the late Monica or mock an epidemic that is claiming lives in real time

Don't sink so low, we know you love koffi and Werrason so you'll always find something to defend them with irrespective of what they do. No one was mocking the epidemic. BCBG management were and have been saying Koffi is a like contagious disease like cholera or ebola and should be quarantined or avoided totally because he gets close to musicians for one reason only, to try and kill them so the "ebola" issue though a bit insensitive is figurative.

The issue of Monica also came from BCBG management, they said if Koffi really had money then perhaps he should have helped to pay for Monica's sickness since it came from her, further investigations by music critics and fans now brought about the real reason Monica died. 

This whole campaign by Koffi has backfired on koffi, he thought he would taunt them and bring out the old style polemic but he went too far by involving JB's wife and also mentioning his children in his stupid talk on daily podcasts.

There is also a serious issue I don't want to say regarding Vieux Nguba and one of Mukulu's daughter's so the people who know everything are angry and you don't expect them to be mute forever.

Stooping low is attempting to excuse the lame use of the late Monica and Ebola epidemic.

Stooping low is attempting to excuse the lame use of the late Monica and Ebola epidemic.

Blame that on JB Mpiana and his management not us fans here on this forum. Let's stick to discussing the issue as outsiders, we are not part of the musicians we discuss. We are tired of this polemic and Koffi especially should be condemned for starting it and JB Mpiana should be blamed for not stopping his spokesmen from sinking so low to respond to Koffi especially they did by giving him an inappropriate nickname which is a bit insensitive, the nickname has sort of become permanent now and so I don't know what they'll do to correct things. Am sure Koffi must be regretting now.

Stooping low is attempting to excuse the lame use of the late Monica and Ebola epidemic.

Blame that on JB Mpiana and his management not us fans here on this forum. Let's stick to discussing the issue as outsiders, we are not part of the musicians we discuss. We are tired of this polemic and Koffi especially should be condemned for starting it and JB Mpiana should be blamed for not stopping his spokesmen from sinking so low to respond to Koffi especially they did by giving him an inappropriate nickname which is a bit insensitive, the nickname has sort of become permanent now and so I don't know what they'll do to correct things. Am sure Koffi must be regretting now.

Good now I can skim through your book , the first two quarters of 2K14 all noise was on Werra and Ferre and Mopao was out cold until Mukulu let him in.Mopao is now going to close the last two quarters capped with a double album finale; you couldn't script this any better. It's clear this guys huddle behind closed doors...

Good now I can skim through your book , the first two quarters of 2K14 all noise was on Werra and Ferre and Mopao was out cold until Mukulu let him in.Mopao is now going to close the last two quarters capped with a double album finale; you couldn't script this any better. It's clear this guys huddle behind closed doors...

Werra too was to blame for his polemic with Ferre in that he let his henchmen say rubbish about Ferre and his band at least theirs did not escalate to uncontrollable levels and Ferre's camp did not choose a controversial nickname, they called Werra 'Vieux Jaloux' but the name chosen by camp BCBG for Koffi is quite controversial hence everyone joining in now because some people genuinely feel the name is inappropriate but still recognise the fact that Koffi went too far in taunting JB Mpiana who till today has not responded to Koffi directly whilst Koffi himself is actively involved in the polemic and he has recorded himself saying very bad things not only about JB but his family so that is on a different dimension together and everyone is unanimous in their conclusion that Koffi is to blame for the current mess and they know he wants attention because he's about to release an album, he's been doing this for years, it's part of his marketing strategy but this time it's backfired badly because people who love JB Mpiana have been defending him ,it's been fire for fire and unfortunately now it's gutter polemic because they are going deep especially when they involve families so it's not just the musicians who will be in bad terms but their children too.

Werra like JB never said anything directly so how is he to blame when it's clear that JB too tried to involve Sankara in his beef with Papa Fololo. I still maintain that these guys are pulling wool out of our eyes; they're all in cahoots....

Werra like JB never said anything directly so how is he to blame when it's clear that JB too tried to involve Sankara in his beef with Papa Fololo. I still maintain that these guys are pulling wool out of our eyes; they're all in cahoots....

Sankara is not the one who named Koffi as Vieux Ebola' it was JB's PR team member Blanchard Mosaka and it was endorsed by Roger Ngandu who is JB Mpiana's official spokesman and Director of Marketing and because they have kept referring to Koffi as Vieux Ebola and kept going on tv dressed in protective clothing means JB Mpiana is happy for them to do so.

To be honest, JB Mpiana knows that the money he lent to Koffi will never be repaid , he wrote that debt off, am sure those close to JB including Werra and Sankara already knew about the debt and it is likely that Sankara took it upon himself and asked JB for permission to reclaim the funds from Koffi and JB probably said go ahead and get the money from Koffi and it's all yours if you do that's how Sankara got involved and when he announced that JB had given him the money owed by Koffi, Vieux went on tv and on his podcasts to say he does not owe JB Mpiana any money and that Sankara should show proof that the amount was  indeed lent to Koffi so.

 I still maintain that these guys are pulling wool out of our eyes; they're all in cahoots....
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i was starting to get worried lol glad the mysterious sentences are back

 I still maintain that these guys are pulling wool out of our eyes; they're all in cahoots....

i was starting to get worried lol glad the mysterious sentences are back
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