Author Topic: YET ANOTHER SONGWRITER COMPLAINING ABOUT ARTISTS  (Read 6916 times)

archos on: January 13, 2015, 16:45

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He says he gave 6 songs to fally in album power,the song l'amour n existe pas from koffi and the song le prince de la ville to werra to name a few but all of them paid him nothing except heritier who gave him 200 dollars

princesab #1 on: January 13, 2015, 19:08

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I like the song l'amour n existe pas, the way its starts.

Back to the topic - Did they ask for his songs or he sent them by himself?

archos #2 on: January 13, 2015, 19:13

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good question, in most of the cases those songwriters are taken to artist's house through one guy who is around him then he makes artist listen to song and if he appreciates he gets it,or sometimes they actually order a song to a songwriter i want a song about this and that and the guy works on it

Mwana Nsalu #3 on: January 13, 2015, 21:05

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there has to be a better system set up. are these artists really not paying these dudes or are they just saying that for some publicity? how can song writers time after time keep getting ripped off? if these dudes are writing these songs for the opportunities knowing that they will not get paid and just knowing how the system is are they just complaining later for tv time??

archos #4 on: January 13, 2015, 21:24

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i think they really are not paid or paid peanuts,many times they brought songs and were told to come back the day after because boss is busy or whatever excuse then the day after artist does not pick phone anymore and the bodyguards dont want to let the songwriter in and it continues like that
 honestly knowing the bad side of the mentality of our musicians i dont think it will change anytime soon, most dont even want to give lest say 1000 dollars a guy who gave them  3 songs who are potential contender for song of the year
i highly doubt they would accept the legal way which would make those guys benefit from their compositions forever
and also in some cases,songs are purely and simply stolen from composers and taken to  leaders by some guys who are like spies for the leaders and they get  something for the service 100 dollars, one jean one fancy shirt or pair of shoes  and thats it
this is why more and more songwriters try their luck with solo albums

archos #5 on: March 28, 2015, 08:59

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that guy says he is a INA student and now a teacher of music theory and already writes his songs with a  beat in studio and then the artist and his musicians improve it a bit
he can play many instruments,he can sing he can dance he is written l 'amour n existe pas for koffi,and talks again about the songs he gave fally saying for example that fally interpreted ndoki well but had taken off the real beginning of the song so maybe he will do a remix with full version
he says he started doing the song nourisson in brazza(and by the way says he has written 6 songs in roga roga's new album contentieux) with help of extra musica's keyboard player obama synthé and actually started with fally from sopeka
he says sometimes he also offered songs to artists but most of the time he sold it to them but they did not respect what they had agreed and says now he will start sueing them  and gives example of capuccino lbg saying the day capuccino comes back to kin,the day after he will take him to court and criticises maison mere musicians in general who he worked with saying they came to you with nice words and when you give your contribution they start wanting to bully you when you ask for your rights and they think they are werra himself because they are in the werra's group
about werra he says he is the one who wrote the whole 6 songs werra and reddy amisi will soon sing together
he says his lifestyle does not match the huge contribution he had in many singers' career but apart those songs he still has over 150 songs yet to be sold or used by himself
he has offered a song to jb mpiana for chemin de fer and they agreed jb will clearly mention him in the song, and from now on he will want whoever works with him to mention him in songs and gives example of joss diena, two musicians of karmapa who have songs on the coming album(and also gave cultura's musicians some of their songs in the two last albums) and if they do not respect it he will sue them
he denies that ferre sent him to reveal the songs he gave to fally and says to teach a lesson to those who said that he will offer strong songs to ferre
he says he can write songs based on the philosophy of many artists so people can order him songs for example for their wedding or any other ceremony and says that he aims to write songs of the level of papa lutumba's trahison one day


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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #6 on: March 28, 2015, 13:55

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Wow, he's so confident!! Am shocked, $200 for a song and we know they all just buy songs so why does it take them years to release albums these musicians of ours? Working with this guy and session musicians even boys from the streets in Kinshasa i can release good albums every year!!!
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archos #7 on: March 28, 2015, 14:13

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mabanga is a really tough part of studio,imagine there are even  sometimes indirect heated arguments between two customers who want their names at a specific part of the song and this can drag the finishing of a song for weeks until the highest bidder wins
look at balle de match and 13 eme apotre,album was 99 per cent complete for like 3 4 months now,they have kept moving mabanga here and there which forced a bit of copy and paste and eventually even had more demand for  new songs and for mabanga in those songs
 a guy like wazekwa whose mabanga are like 80 per cent of friends and the rest of customers never spends more than 6 months of recording (if you combine the days)
kie kie kie pida is really confident, the way  he clearly says the number of songs he gave to roga and werra for example says a lot since normally they not have the right to say it especially this early,so maybe he is fed up of having been unpaid for too long so now he does not give a damn
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #8 on: March 28, 2015, 14:21

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Hahahaha, mabanga is really killing this music but I don't blame the musicians, they used to make money through concerts especially travelling abroad now they have to rely on studio mabanga to survive.

I only hope and I really hope that JB Mpiana is using a proper studio this time because the sound on the Soyons Serieux generiques was a let down, I skip all the generiques on that album coz of poor mixing,it was so amateurish.
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Ken Bilele #9 on: March 30, 2015, 21:02

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I still dont understand how these musicians operate. They are not professionals at all. This fellow can single handedly be employed by Koffi,Werra or JB as a band music compser and they cant do that. The picture I get here is a people who want to make much without spending much.

archos #10 on: March 30, 2015, 21:10

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exactly ken,most of the songwriters are young and unknown  so they can bully how they want,like i said in a past post,there is already a songwriter like that who has been beaten to death(rip) because of order of an artist since he exposed about 20 songs he gave him and got peanuts
then there are experienced songwriters like quartier latin's ex rhythm and one of the creators of tchatcho do akongo or eldorado,which they treat with more respect(even if there are still cases of them also being direspected by artists)