Author Topic: Did amelia felt himself humiliated and unhappy at Bercy ???  (Read 7496 times)

mvulusi96 on: January 15, 2016, 17:31

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his vocal feels very emotional and you can see that he didn't want to join Maison Mere, but he didn't have a choice.....



archos #1 on: January 15, 2016, 17:37

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yeah indeed his voice sounds different to every of the other times we heard him,he really did not want to join and it took some time for didi kinuani to convince him,he even said in an interview that he felt like he betrayed jb who accepted him in wenge
on another note hahaha nsone did not even realise that "bana bazolia te" was a secrete attack to him for being "maboko makasi"

mvulusi96 #2 on: January 15, 2016, 18:01

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yeah indeed his voice sounds different to every of the other times we heard him,he really did not want to join and it took some time for didi kinuani to convince him,he even said in an interview that he felt like he betrayed jb who accepted him in wenge
on another note hahaha nsone did not even realise that "bana bazolia te" was a secrete attack to him for being "maboko makasi"
kiekiekiekie  the commandant lokondo-animation of bill from a la que leu leu was also an attack on nsone.

there was one interview where he said that the staff of bcbg tried to convice him to comeback, the same week. But he changed his mind when they gave him the order to talk first with his "ex'collegues" Titina & Alain Mpela instead of talking with JB directly. Otherwise we would see him in LSC and not bercy.

CM PRINCE #3 on: January 15, 2016, 20:58

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I don't get it why he felt like he was betraying JB didn't JB unsettle him and indirectly kick him out of BCBG? but yeah he said was reluctant to join the group especially after what they did to patient kusangila at palais du sport by humiliating him and he didn't want the same thing to happen to him, he made they them promise they wouldn't humiliate him
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Matebu #4 on: January 15, 2016, 21:16

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but yeah he said was reluctant to join the group especially after what they did to patient kusangila at palais du sport by humiliating him and he didn't want the same thing to happen to him, he made they them promise they wouldn't humiliate him

To this day I don't understand the whole cringe-worthy ceremony they did. Of course it was to humble Patient, but can you explain how that ceremony idea came about? I remember Masela was in the background along with some of audience like what heck is going on. Tata in his roman warrior costume :D

Franco Pepe Kalle #5 on: January 15, 2016, 21:54

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I don't really believe that JB Mpiana really cared that much for Amelia. I think he was more focused on Alain Mpela than Amelia anyway.

archos #6 on: January 15, 2016, 22:12

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yes alain mpela became a bit like jb's own brother but jb loved aimelia a lot aswell,but honestly aimelia would not have  lasted too much in bcbg because of his personality,he was too honest and in most groups when there is a guy like that  the guys who will want to become the only boss favorites will do all it takes to force him out,alain mpela himself despite being aimelia's best friend did his share in that operation
hahaha prince that ceremony was simply a parody of titanic with maison mere having reversed the spiral about "baza ya kozinda"
i am sure if not for kakol being there titina could have been approached aswell in that period since the three bcbg guys who joined maison mere in that period were key members mboka,aimelia and kusangila,i know a lot of people who say werra killed jb from that day by the symbol of taking major members like that and not a seguin or a theo bidens of then for example

BG-ground #7 on: January 15, 2016, 22:54

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Haha when I think about those yrs 97 to 2002ish, can't help but laugh! Specially how it actually affected me!! When Makaba and Cele Bula left, I felt like a part of me was gone too..and when Kus,Mbokalia and Amelia ended up going to WMMM,
I told myself "Nsone just killed us". Thought TH was going to have a poor sound quality like Intervention Rapid or  Bula's Ponderation 8!!

Speaking of Aimelia imagine if he had done a good promotion of his Album Constat, where he could be now....
Archos, in Titanic DVD every songs of band members present at the time were featured, except Aimelia's! And I remember in an interview he said they actually made the music video! Do you know why his song wasnt featured?

mvulusi96 #8 on: January 16, 2016, 23:48

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yes alain mpela became a bit like jb's own brother but jb loved aimelia a lot aswell,but honestly aimelia would not have  lasted too much in bcbg because of his personality,he was too honest and in most groups when there is a guy like that  the guys who will want to become the only boss favorites will do all it takes to force him out,alain mpela himself despite being aimelia's best friend did his share in that operation
hahaha prince that ceremony was simply a parody of titanic with maison mere having reversed the spiral about "baza ya kozinda"
i am sure if not for kakol being there titina could have been approached aswell in that period since the three bcbg guys who joined maison mere in that period were key members mboka,aimelia and kusangila,i know a lot of people who say werra killed jb from that day by the symbol of taking major members like that and not a seguin or a theo bidens of then for example
what was the reason that Burkina Faso joined Maison Mere? Because I tried to follow his explanations, but he was interrupting hisself by going to laugh and the journalist was making it worse by mabanga's.

I remember that the show of bercy was planned in june 2000, but problems between Claude Maluma & Werrason changed the planning. But was the problem between the two guys?

mampenza #9 on: January 17, 2016, 18:01

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yes alain mpela became a bit like jb's own brother but jb loved aimelia a lot aswell,but honestly aimelia would not have  lasted too much in bcbg because of his personality,he was too honest and in most groups when there is a guy like that  the guys who will want to become the only boss favorites will do all it takes to force him out,alain mpela himself despite being aimelia's best friend did his share in that operation
hahaha prince that ceremony was simply a parody of titanic with maison mere having reversed the spiral about "baza ya kozinda"
i am sure if not for kakol being there titina could have been approached aswell in that period since the three bcbg guys who joined maison mere in that period were key members mboka,aimelia and kusangila,i know a lot of people who say werra killed jb from that day by the symbol of taking major members like that and not a seguin or a theo bidens of then for example
what was the reason that Burkina Faso joined Maison Mere? Because I tried to follow his explanations, but he was interrupting hisself by going to laugh and the journalist was making it worse by mabanga's.

I remember that the show of bercy was planned in june 2000, but problems between Claude Maluma & Werrason changed the planning. But was the problem between the two guys?


Simply because after the departure of Blaise Bula and Alain Makaba in 1999, JB wasn't really treating him well, he drove a car which was always dameged and JB was avoiding him because he was asking money for the car or even to pay him the salary, and then when Bula and Makaba were on the movement everything was right he always got his check in time, no double face and so on, and he just got tired after a year with only the JB Mpiana management ,in fact JB didn't put the names Mboka Liya were taking money from for mabanga, and so he went to MMM, but there was even worst because obviously as a former BCBG member Werras didn't see him well even though a lot of guys in Wenge MMM like Bill Clinton Kalonji, Celeo and so on respected him, the final point was when in repetitòn Mboka Liya got a phonecall and so he asked sorry for answering and as he stopped the guitar, for answering Werra slapped him in the face in front of all the Orchestra making his telephone fall. After that Mboka Liya took Werra in the court and the judge gave Werra reason for the simple fact that he said privately to Mboka Liya that he cannot make win a guy against Werrason because he has a huge fan base and if he made Werra lose a case he could probably be have his house on fire by some Werrasonik and other bad stuff, so he went away from there and went back to Wenge BCBG and JB didn't change his behaviour on him, and even Genta and Tutu Caludji made some cries about him, like this one : "Mboka Liya pour-quoi ozongeli Souverain osambela yuda(Werra) obinisa yuda(Werra) JB ako wangana yo te,[Mboka Liya why you came back on Souverain? you prayed Yuda(Werra)made you dance (Werra) JB will not refuse you]  in the album anti-terro. But things were worse and JB made fun of him knowing the facts about the slap of Werra towards him, so after that he left again BCBG and he tried to do an Orchestra with the same original name of Wenge BCBG but everytime he was on reharsal or taking a musician a malanda-ngombe of JB was interrupting him, and for the musicians, JB took them because of course couldn't have the money of JB. And this is the reason why in the interview he says that you can see a Devil's worker from his actions

Ken Bilele #10 on: January 18, 2016, 08:17

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I can see why Mboka is always bitter. His was sad.

archos #11 on: January 18, 2016, 11:15

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lol mboka gave them a lot of headaches aswell,its pretty simple jb and werra and congolese musicians in general have tough relationship with musicians who are difficult to control and who speak their mind;those who last long in groups are those who speak the "same language" as the boss