What an idiotic stament. Modashow (who Oliver says he doesn't know) seems like a villager.

Whoever is saying that is not a normal human being. His brain requires serious examination. Jules kibense? A whisperer?

as surprising as it may seem to some kibens is very respected within artists,even guys of victoria eleison who are probably the most demanding towards a singer(due to how kester trained them) speak highly of him
also olivier just does not want to credit abel de charmes,both have been having a beef for years

Listen carefully Kibens is not really a bad singer I think his appearance gives people a perception of him being bad at everything, he is an alright dancer and singer too but a very very good song writer.

Listen carefully Kibens is not really a bad singer I think his appearance gives people a perception of him being bad at everything, he is an alright dancer and singer too but a very very good song writer.

A lion has his day and that day comes to an end. That day for kibense ended long time ago. His whispering voice actually sounded like zuzuki lizubu when he first joined bcbg and i liked it. Today, its a "hissing" sound when he opens that little mouth. His dancing skills have never been any good but only his habit of falling on his stomach when called to dance.

On his "Le Poete" skills.....i do not know since we have no facts.

indeed kibens voice has changed,whether he just wanted not to sound anymore like a werra/suzuki/blaise bula type of singer or its age or whatever,we dont really know,but listen carefully to correction's chorus,on some  parts he brings back that zenith voice,although of course  sounding older like all the singers we knew almost 20 years ago now
that kibens who sings with his lungs and not just  his lips like recently is a quite useful singer
as for his writing its been proven in 4X4 and other groups of that era and in bcbg,no writer on earth contributes to jb's career more than him even when jb buys outside his team of writers(kibens,mosaka,zulema,boguys),kibens always gets involved
and same for almost all songs of his colleagues

Ah, Moda!!!!!! The guy has perfect vocal control!! Fuck whatever that former Shegue Olivier is saying, it's just polemique, he knows very well there are better 2eme voix singers at BCBG than Kibens.

i was amazed at how modashow almost reproduced to perfection afandé's voice

Ah, Moda!!!!!! The guy has perfect vocal control!! Fuck whatever that former Shegue Olivier is saying, it's just polemique, he knows very well there are better 2eme voix singers at BCBG than Kibens.

Why do you always bring up that supposedly Olivier was a shegue and even if he was one so what he has a better life now.

i was amazed at how modashow almost reproduced to perfection afandé's voice

Yeah even when he was singing other vocals he was singing like him.

Why do you always bring up that supposedly Olivier was a shegue and even if he was one so what he has a better life now.

Why does that concern you so much, is he your friend or relative and even so why should it bother you, you have called someone a villager but you don't want me to call another a former Shegue? Even villagers get a new life so what's the difference between what you have said and what i said, nothing mate, here is what you said ''What an idiotic stament. Modashow (who Oliver says he doesn't know) seems like a villager.''
Don't take things personal, these chaps we discuss here are artists and are bound to be called names, get on with it!

Archos.....tell me any classic song composed by kibense. All kibense compositions and contributions sound the same. Proper composers in wenge bcbg have always been jb himself.....tutu caludji.....chai ngenge and more recently nono fuji and abraham. I even find rio's compositions much better.

 kibens can hardly do classics for the simple reason that his best songs go to jb(germando and many many many others
then in the songs credited to him on cds there is too much of his "too intellectual" approach,at least when writing for jb he adjusts to jb's feeling

Sly, I said that the Modashaw guy seems like a villager I didn't say he is but you said Olivier was actually a shegue before.