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For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in Europe
Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time
Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 19:24Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time Is Tokoos II going to have their vocals? Or is this a different type of album? Do you think Fally should have a group or should he just be a completely solo artist like Diamond Platinum or Inoss'B
Quote from: Wenge1995 on December 02, 2020, 20:04Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 19:24Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time Is Tokoos II going to have their vocals? Or is this a different type of album? Do you think Fally should have a group or should he just be a completely solo artist like Diamond Platinum or Inoss'BNo Tokoooss II is literally gonna be the same format as Tokoooss 1, remember it's not a Rumba album. Personally for me I think he should have a group because first and foremost he's a rumba artist and even he will tell you that, I think he needs to do away that whole groupe d'accompagnement BS talk, because they literally operate like a normal group, and he actually has potential stars in that group but they're not used much and over shadowed by the Atele and co. He was actually considering making F'Victeam a proper group during Libres Parcours days but he messed up along with the musicians because they failed to promote it properly and he himself didn't promote it because he felt it was their responsibility, now what kind of leader does that? can you imagine if Koffi, Jb and Werra in their primes did that? Say what you want about those three, but they would never ever do that back in the Golden days.
Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 20:36Quote from: Wenge1995 on December 02, 2020, 20:04Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 19:24Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time Is Tokoos II going to have their vocals? Or is this a different type of album? Do you think Fally should have a group or should he just be a completely solo artist like Diamond Platinum or Inoss'BNo Tokoooss II is literally gonna be the same format as Tokoooss 1, remember it's not a Rumba album. Personally for me I think he should have a group because first and foremost he's a rumba artist and even he will tell you that, I think he needs to do away that whole groupe d'accompagnement BS talk, because they literally operate like a normal group, and he actually has potential stars in that group but they're not used much and over shadowed by the Atele and co. He was actually considering making F'Victeam a proper group during Libres Parcours days but he messed up along with the musicians because they failed to promote it properly and he himself didn't promote it because he felt it was their responsibility, now what kind of leader does that? can you imagine if Koffi, Jb and Werra in their primes did that? Say what you want about those three, but they would never ever do that back in the Golden days.Yes bro i'm agree with you. But if Fally has to consider F'Victeam like a real band (like QL, MM, BCBG, Viva...) he should put the spots on the young and good singers who are in his group. In concert and albums, Maiko, PingPong, Dartagna and the other should have more vocals and especially be in the front line with Fally in live and Fally playing his role of promoting them like Koffi did for him and the others
Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 21:01Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 20:36Quote from: Wenge1995 on December 02, 2020, 20:04Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 19:24Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time Is Tokoos II going to have their vocals? Or is this a different type of album? Do you think Fally should have a group or should he just be a completely solo artist like Diamond Platinum or Inoss'BNo Tokoooss II is literally gonna be the same format as Tokoooss 1, remember it's not a Rumba album. Personally for me I think he should have a group because first and foremost he's a rumba artist and even he will tell you that, I think he needs to do away that whole groupe d'accompagnement BS talk, because they literally operate like a normal group, and he actually has potential stars in that group but they're not used much and over shadowed by the Atele and co. He was actually considering making F'Victeam a proper group during Libres Parcours days but he messed up along with the musicians because they failed to promote it properly and he himself didn't promote it because he felt it was their responsibility, now what kind of leader does that? can you imagine if Koffi, Jb and Werra in their primes did that? Say what you want about those three, but they would never ever do that back in the Golden days.Yes bro i'm agree with you. But if Fally has to consider F'Victeam like a real band (like QL, MM, BCBG, Viva...) he should put the spots on the young and good singers who are in his group. In concert and albums, Maiko, PingPong, Dartagna and the other should have more vocals and especially be in the front line with Fally in live and Fally playing his role of promoting them like Koffi did for him and the othersI suspect that Fally doesn't like sharing the spotlight, because he knows the work that leaders undertake for group promotions during his days in QL. I find it very strange that he or his staff could fumble F'Victeam, because the team was very strong and promising. He's giving me Madilu vibes lmao
Quote from: Wenge1995 on December 02, 2020, 23:35Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 21:01Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 20:36Quote from: Wenge1995 on December 02, 2020, 20:04Quote from: CM PRINCE on December 02, 2020, 19:24Quote from: Congolitude on December 02, 2020, 08:52For the cri that Fally put on his snap, thats not the cri of Kabuya but a cri who was already used at the time of Pas de faux pas. Kabuya has a unique place in Fally's band, I believe he is not considered to have left the group. If Fally does a new album rumba, we have a lot of chance to have Kabuya in the generique, he can do his parts here in EuropeOh yeah that's true, might just be a pure coincidence. But yeah because he's even distanced himself a bit from Cousteau and co, along with Boussole because they're hoping to still have a foot inside the group, loool their plan to have rebellion group has flopped and backfired big time Is Tokoos II going to have their vocals? Or is this a different type of album? Do you think Fally should have a group or should he just be a completely solo artist like Diamond Platinum or Inoss'BNo Tokoooss II is literally gonna be the same format as Tokoooss 1, remember it's not a Rumba album. Personally for me I think he should have a group because first and foremost he's a rumba artist and even he will tell you that, I think he needs to do away that whole groupe d'accompagnement BS talk, because they literally operate like a normal group, and he actually has potential stars in that group but they're not used much and over shadowed by the Atele and co. He was actually considering making F'Victeam a proper group during Libres Parcours days but he messed up along with the musicians because they failed to promote it properly and he himself didn't promote it because he felt it was their responsibility, now what kind of leader does that? can you imagine if Koffi, Jb and Werra in their primes did that? Say what you want about those three, but they would never ever do that back in the Golden days.Yes bro i'm agree with you. But if Fally has to consider F'Victeam like a real band (like QL, MM, BCBG, Viva...) he should put the spots on the young and good singers who are in his group. In concert and albums, Maiko, PingPong, Dartagna and the other should have more vocals and especially be in the front line with Fally in live and Fally playing his role of promoting them like Koffi did for him and the othersI suspect that Fally doesn't like sharing the spotlight, because he knows the work that leaders undertake for group promotions during his days in QL. I find it very strange that he or his staff could fumble F'Victeam, because the team was very strong and promising. He's giving me Madilu vibes lmaoLOOOL no man, Madilu never brought his musicians to Europe and never gave them a group album, whilst Fally to his credit he always brings them on tours and gave them a group album and even during the summer let them record their own EP, whilst he could very easily just use session artists for both albums and tours. That's something Jb wanted to originally do when Wenge was splitting, he wanted to do a solo career and just use session artists and only tour with Kibens,Boguys etc...I don't know if it's necessarily sharing the spotlight, he just doesn't want to deal with ego's and he knows firsthand if he gives more spce to his musicians it can become a complete headache for him, which for example look at how many people have left Bcbg, WMM, QL and have attacked their ex bosses on TV even if it's an exaggerationOr if you wanna go deeper in his generation look at how many musicians Ferre himself has lost and they went on TV to attack him and complaining about their treatment and salary and so on, same thing with Fabregas and his group, Lacoste and his group.Like I said each time he considers making it a proper group something always happens that makes him change his mind, like that time his musicians ran away in Europe during their first or second tour, that other time the whole band was gonna stay until Celeo stepped in and saved things, their failure to promote their album and then them blaming Fally, there's been so many times. Also you have to blame his staff and his other yes men who always tell him to not promote the guys because they will get big headed and leave.My uncle who's a donor for many of the big artists was telling me that sometimes Fally thinks to himself that he wouldn't mind making it a serious group but then people convince him otherwise, and also nowadays every artist are too self centered compared to the past that it doesn't motivate anyone anymore.