Author Topic: SAM TSHINTU'S INTERVIEW WITH ADO YUHE IS OUT  (Read 2668 times)

archos on: February 06, 2023, 21:38

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Lool somono and bouro  are surely the funniest ever of quartier latin they always are mentioned in the anecdotes

Mfumu Vata #1 on: February 07, 2023, 00:31

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The way sam tshintu imitated somono being mad/drunk in the plane killed me and the day after it avoiding to look at Koffi’s face. No wonder that Koffi often being mad against him and being left behind for second part of africa tour pt. 2 '98. So he was after years still not over the way Koffi ended his relationship with nono ba diamants to make her his sidechick ? btw was it not the same trip where he insulted koffi and his friend/influent staffmember from europe (i dont remember who) in the plane or was that from the trip of burkina faso ?

I think that Mbuta Likasu's work motivated Ado Yuhe to do his work better and him on the same time being lucky that Sam Tshintu knows how to answer questions and not complicates the interview. If he did it in 2018 he would have insisted on the question he asked about the dancers.

I didn't knew that late ondo was that old and older than koffi himself. Eh muana 1954, na kamwe. Its only from recent interviews of Do Akongo and Sam Tshintu about Do Akongo (Bonjour) also having a song on Magie. It's a shame it not got released. Koffi probably cut it off from the tracklist because of him joining Madilu's band with Eric Tutsi. Hearing short extracts from Sam and Akongo made me being interested in the whole version. Do Akongo must remix it or sing the whole version on youtube with his guitar.

I don't believe the story of Sam Tshintu being initiated by Koffi in Benin and knowing many secrets. It must be a former collegue that doesn't like him. However, we'll never know. If it was Suzuki than I would believe it, because he was often accused for doing bad things to others during rehearshals and himself revealed some secrets about Benin and late Mboyo's death when doing his interview back in 2000 which scared Depitcho, Cesar Loboko and JF Ifonge. or the interview he made back in 2013, openly saying that he sacrificied many people for Quartier Latin's succes, attacking Koffi's family (saying that there wasn't an elevator in the building where late maman amy was living) with Koffi ending up by threating the woman that interviewed Suzuki for digitalcongo in europe.
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Mfumu Vata #2 on: February 07, 2023, 00:31

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What Sam Tshintu said here from 1:57:06 min. I was already thinking about it when he said it during Mbuta Likasu's interview, comparing it to Emeneya's case in 1984 which was not exactly the same. Almost all co-founders of Victoria Eleison left Emeneya and formed Victoria Principal. They all ended up by returning (except late Bipoli na Fulu) and basically became "his" (Emeneya's) musicians and hadn't any right on the name Victoria Eleison because Emeneya registrated it as an individual trademark. Sam Tshintu done the same thing if he followed Faustin Djata's machiavellic plan by leaving Academia and making the in kinshasa-recruited his musicians with somono, mboshi, modogo, pathy and lebou joining sam to become "his" sam's musicians and Academia officialy becoming Sam's band and the co-founders not having any rights.

academia were often spiritually attacked. that must have been very scary for somono to to not being able to walk. they way sam tshintu said “ya trop des choses” with that look, shows that stuff happened who were worser that he will never reveal on tv.

sam tshintu denies that he was contacted to rejoin quartier latin. but he forget that he made 10 years ago an interview where he said that he got contacted along with, modogo and mboshi to rejoin Quartier Latin in 2005, him being the only that refused the offer.
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Wenge1995 #3 on: February 07, 2023, 05:32

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The way sam tshintu imitated somono being mad/drunk in the plane killed me and the day after it avoiding to look at Koffi’s face. No wonder that Koffi often being mad against him and being left behind for second part of africa tour pt. 2 '98. So he was after years still not over the way Koffi ended his relationship with nono ba diamants to make her his sidechick ? btw was it not the same trip where he insulted koffi and his friend/influent staffmember from europe (i dont remember who) in the plane or was that from the trip of burkina faso ?

I think that Mbuta Likasu's work motivated Ado Yuhe to do his work better and him on the same time being lucky that Sam Tshintu knows how to answer questions and not complicates the interview. If he did it in 2018 he would have insisted on the question he asked about the dancers.

I didn't knew that late ondo was that old and older than koffi himself. Eh muana 1954, na kamwe. Its only from recent interviews of Do Akongo and Sam Tshintu about Do Akongo (Bonjour) also having a song on Magie. It's a shame it not got released. Koffi probably cut it off from the tracklist because of him joining Madilu's band with Eric Tutsi. Hearing short extracts from Sam and Akongo made me being interested in the whole version. Do Akongo must remix it or sing the whole version on youtube with his guitar.

I don't believe the story of Sam Tshintu being initiated by Koffi in Benin and knowing many secrets. It must be a former collegue that doesn't like him. However, we'll never know. If it was Suzuki than I would believe it, because he was often accused for doing bad things to others during rehearshals and himself revealed some secrets about Benin and late Mboyo's death when doing his interview back in 2000 which scared Depitcho, Cesar Loboko and JF Ifonge. or the interview he made back in 2013, openly saying that he sacrificied many people for Quartier Latin's succes, attacking Koffi's family (saying that there wasn't an elevator in the building where late maman amy was living) with Koffi ending up by threating the woman that interviewed Suzuki for digitalcongo in europe.

I'm not surprised Somono was upset to lose Nono Diamants, they lived together as boyfriend/girlfriend in a serious relationship. She had a tough career, wasn't she in a relationship with JB Mpiana as well? She was kept from dancing in Zenith because of JB's wife threatened to divorce if she danced on stage.

What made Koffi change his mind about Somono, allowing him to participate in Droit de Veto? Usually when he leaves people behind, that's pretty much like being fired.

Mfumu Vata #4 on: February 07, 2023, 11:45

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Yeah, she later became JB's sidechick. She was not kept from dancing at Zenith, Zenith was her first trip with BCBG. She was kept from dancing at Bercy. During that time she already stayed in Europe, because Amida threatened to kill her the moment she would arrive in Kinshasa. In the months she spent in Europe to wait for BCBG to come back, she appeared in some videoclips recorded by Europe-based artists. At Bercy she wanted to do her 7th anniversary of dancing-career and stop there as dancer, but she got sadly blocked by JB's wife who also came to Bercy. Nono ba Diamants was btw lucky to be present during the Internet/TH trip, because she traveled with the passeport of another girl since that Amida wanting her be left behind stay in Kinshasa after discovering that she had an affair with JB Mpiana.

Somono was left behind in Kinshasa and traveled to Europe on his own through South Africa with help from Henri Mova Sakani and Francis Kalombo. He first arrived in Brazzaville with Modogo Balongona, Rosette Kamono and Binda Bass, thinking that he would also a ticket there from Koffi Olomidé but Koffi refusing, wanting to punish Somono for the way he used to misbehave. Somono arrived the same evening that Quartier Latin was performing at Olympia. When people heard that he arrived in Europe, influent staffmembers reconciled him with Koffi Olomidé.
They agreed that Somono would participate to all concerts of Quartier Latin during the tour, participate to Droit de Vet and at the end of tour being free to do what he wants (staying in Europe)

Wenge1995 #5 on: February 07, 2023, 14:18

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Yeah, she later became JB's sidechick. She was not kept from dancing at Zenith, Zenith was her first trip with BCBG. She was kept from dancing at Bercy. During that time she already stayed in Europe, because Amida threatened to kill her the moment she would arrive in Kinshasa. In the months she spent in Europe to wait for BCBG to come back, she appeared in some videoclips recorded by Europe-based artists. At Bercy she wanted to do her 7th anniversary of dancing-career and stop there as dancer, but she got sadly blocked by JB's wife who also came to Bercy. Nono ba Diamants was btw lucky to be present during the Internet/TH trip, because she traveled with the passeport of another girl since that Amida wanting her be left behind stay in Kinshasa after discovering that she had an affair with JB Mpiana.

Somono was left behind in Kinshasa and traveled to Europe on his own through South Africa with help from Henri Mova Sakani and Francis Kalombo. He first arrived in Brazzaville with Modogo Balongona, Rosette Kamono and Binda Bass, thinking that he would also a ticket there from Koffi Olomidé but Koffi refusing, wanting to punish Somono for the way he used to misbehave. Somono arrived the same evening that Quartier Latin was performing at Olympia. When people heard that he arrived in Europe, influent staffmembers reconciled him with Koffi Olomidé.
They agreed that Somono would participate to all concerts of Quartier Latin during the tour, participate to Droit de Vet and at the end of tour being free to do what he wants (staying in Europe)

I'm surprised musicians were able to travel using someone else's passport, doesn't customs verify identity? I'm guessing it was relatively easy before 9/11.

Who was your favorite dancer from the groups? Mine was Monica Celeste then Nono Diamant.

Mfumu Vata #6 on: February 07, 2023, 14:43

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They were using the system of “bangula” until Papa Wemba’s arrestation which messed everything up. It made it easy to travel on somebodies name.

To be fair in my opinion Nono ba Diamants doesn’t know how to dance. I saw many bands in my life, so I can’t pick and I don’t have one favorite
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Monsieur Congo #7 on: February 07, 2023, 15:28

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Surprisingly a decent interview

archos #8 on: February 07, 2023, 15:54

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sam looked quite emotional when talking about dolce being paralysed,surely it reminded him of what they all went through behind the scenes,and when you make the link with his interviews with mbuta and bokul shouting at him despite being in absolute war with koffi at that moment,it shows how the elders can unite to destroy younger guys despite their own beefs,fally and ferre are probably the first generation where they are not doing it

CM PRINCE #9 on: February 08, 2023, 07:59

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I think this is the first time I’ve heard someone indirectly admit they wanted to become the sole leader. Because Sam said he gets the blame for wanting to be the president and leader whilst they should’ve expected it since they named him the president.

archos #10 on: February 08, 2023, 11:48

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yeah i believe he is particularly saying it about the discipline side,sam is a discipline freak,even his best friends of latino clan somono babia and modogo were never escaping being late when koffi was around,babia could do even his baby voice to soften him up but his no remained no,and koffi loved him as a chef d orchestre for that,no sentiment when its about work
and when they went to create academia the fact that they were all the co-founders of the group made some do what they want and it creates trouble,i think deep down our music is made for sole leader style but the guy should just not exaggerate his overall authority
 look at how tata somehow "sabotaged" what werra considered his bercy,until they activate most of the dirtiest plans(luckily for them they never used the ultimate plan which was to literally kidnap him if he is making himself too present in the concert and make him miss the end otherwise there would be serious drama)

Mfumu Vata #11 on: February 08, 2023, 22:30

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I dont think that Pathy Bass will be happy the way Sam Tshintu said that Binda Bass came before him. Sam surely forgot about that. Musicians are often sensitive about stories of x or y having joined the band earlier. Until this day Pathy feels that he didn't receive enough credit for his work in Quartier Latin. He came to replace Augusto Nsingi who ran away in Europe and after V12 he became at some point the main bassplayer, because Koffi wasn't liking Rocky Blanchard anymore after discovering that he had an affair with a dancer. Pathy Bass started to play bass the most in concerts and being there on every trip to an African country but Binda Bass being the one who got picked for the trip to Europe for Ultimatum while he came way later than him. Binda Bass always getting praised by Koffi and appearing clips, but Pathy not getting any praise although his hard work.


Mfumu Vata #12 on: February 08, 2023, 22:34

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Seeing Sam Tshintu having opened the page about Academia with Ado Yuhe. I would like to see Mboshi's, Pathy Bass' and Somono's version about Academia.

CM PRINCE #13 on: February 08, 2023, 23:21

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Seeing Sam Tshintu having opened the page about Academia with Ado Yuhe. I would like to see Mboshi's, Pathy Bass' and Somono's version about Academia.
I’ve been wanting them to come back for years to talk about Academia. Ado said during Pathy Bass’s interview that he will invite him back for the 2nd part to talk about Acadmeia but it never happened. Somono spoke a bit about Academia the very first time he came to Ado Yuhe but that was before Ado started his concept.

Wenge1995 #14 on: February 09, 2023, 04:57

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I dont think that Pathy Bass will be happy the way Sam Tshintu said that Binda Bass came before him. Sam surely forgot about that. Musicians are often sensitive about stories of x or y having joined the band earlier. Until this day Pathy feels that he didn't receive enough credit for his work in Quartier Latin. He came to replace Augusto Nsingi who ran away in Europe and after V12 he became at some point the main bassplayer, because Koffi wasn't liking Rocky Blanchard anymore after discovering that he had an affair with a dancer. Pathy Bass started to play bass the most in concerts and being there on every trip to an African country but Binda Bass being the one who got picked for the trip to Europe for Ultimatum while he came way later than him. Binda Bass always getting praised by Koffi and appearing clips, but Pathy not getting any praise although his hard work.

I think Binda got more attention because of his looks, because Pathy played bass better than him. But at least Koffi gave him a song on Droit de Veto, I'm surprised Binda didn't join Academia after being left behind during Attentat recordings in South Africa